How To Outsource Your Sales Calls For Your Online Business

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Today we have the pleasure of interviewing Keith Wolf from Virtual Appoint (virtualappoint.com). As many of you know I am a HUGE fan of outsourcing. Keith has taken outsourcing to a whole new level. He has identified (and fixed) a problem that most people encounter when they enter the world of outsourcing- making effective sales calls.

Let’s get right to the interview.

1) Keith, would you start out with a little background about you and the types of things that you have done prior to Virtual Appoint?

Sure, after graduating from the University of Texas, I started my career in market research at Procter & Gamble where I designed research studies to understand the market for various household consumer products. From there I joined Invisalign, where I was the second marketing person hired to join what was then a fledging start-up. The company was founded by two Stanford MBA’s and it went on to help revolutionize modern orthodontics by inventing a product category known as invisible orthodontics. It was at Invisalign that I was first exposed to the cost and efficiency benefits of outsourcing. It was 1999 and outsourcing call centers internationally was still a relatively new concept to most US companies. We were in the middle of Silicon Valley, yet through a combination of our company’s own international operations and outsourcing, we had call centers, manufacturing, marketing, and software development operations in Pakistan, Costa Rica, and Eastern Europe.

Following Invisalign, I studied at Harvard Business School. I vividly recall one prominent venture capitalist who guest lectured on campus saying that he would not invest in a company that did not have an outsourcing strategy. Fast forward 5 years – since business school I have been involved in two other companies that have outsourced everything from bookkeeping to manufacturing.

2) Why did you create Virtual Appoint?

My background has given me a unique perspective on what resources are available for companies that are looking to outsource. But the one service that I had never seen done well was cold calling. The argument that cold calling doesn’t work is an absolute myth. For those who have tried it, I would guess that it ranks up there with death and public speaking as an activity that they fear the most. But there’s no arguing that it works. It’s just a time and numbers game. Most people do not have enough time in the day and/or enough resources to engage in a successful cold calling campaign. Just like with direct mail, the success rate is relatively low on a per call basis, but if you’re smart, have great phone skills, and make enough calls, you will find prospects who value your product or service. Part of Virtual Appoint’s value is that we hire only the absolute best of the best in the industry. Our associates are well educated (most have their MBA’s), speak fluent English, and take the time to really understand a client’s business before we start making calls.

3) Why is outsourcing sales calls with your company different?

Virtual Appoint provides our clients with a higher level of personalized service and expertise in the cold calling market. We do this by not only screening for the best talent, but also by being extremely critical of the nuances of language and accents. Unfortunately, lower end international operations have trained US consumers to be leery of the small time delay before someone says “hello”. And we’ve all had the frustration of speaking with someone who we know is thousands of miles away – it’s impersonal and it’s frustrating. Virtual Appoint’s state of the art IT technology eliminates phone delays and our exhaustive hiring and training process removes the language and accent barriers.

But in these economic times, service is not enough – we’re also significantly less expensive than US-based business development companies. Our management team is US-based, so we’re able to engage our clients directly and understand their needs from a business perspective. But, our international operations give us cost advantages that simply cannot be matched domestically. I do not know of another provider anywhere that will help build your business with a graduate degree caliber staff for as little as $16/hour.

4) Would you give me a thumb nail sketch of how the Virtual Appoint process works?

Sure, the process is actually very simple. First, clients visit our website, where they create a profile and sign up for a block of hours for the month. This takes less than 3 minutes. Within 1 hour the client receives a call or email – whichever the client prefers – from a Virtual Appoint associate who will assess their needs. This typically includes a basic education on the client’s business and an introductory assessment of the project. We then set up a meeting for a comprehensive training where we can really dig into a client’s business and help them devise a plan for the cold call project. This can include generating a target list if they don’t already have one, writing a cold call script, and identifying key points to highlight with the target market. Once the calls begin, the client can log-in to their account at any point to view the results of calls that have been made. The goal of most campaigns is to set appointments for our clients so they can meet face to face with prospects. In those cases, we make an appointment in the client’s online calendar – clients can log-in to virtualappoint.com to view their appointments in real time. At the end of each business day we email clients a full report that highlights how many calls were made, the result of every call, and how many hours they have left in their account. If clients run out of hours, they can visit their online account to purchase more hours at any time.

5) What industries do you serve?

We serve a wide variety of industries – entrepreneurs in a variety of industries, advertising and public relations professionals, financial and insurance companies, internet marketing companies, IT companies, small business owners, the list goes on.

6) Who is a typical client?

Most clients come to us because they are looking for new and efficient ways to reach their target market. In a marketplace that’s being flooded every day with more print ads, more TV commercials, more of every form of advertising marketers can dream up, the need to engage customers in a verbal conversation – to really get in front of customers – is becoming exponentially more difficult. Our clients range from medium sized business owners looking to expand their businesses to independent sales reps who use us as their personal business development department. We really cater our services to our customers’ needs. At the end of the day, we’re in the customer service business – if we can help our clients, we will.

7) Does Virtual Appoint offer other services besides cold calling?

We do and while the cold calling aspect of our business seems to get the most attention because of its uniqueness, our virtual assistant services make up about 40% of our business. Our Virtual Appoint associates help clients with competitive and industry research, writing business plans, submitting expense reports, making travel arrangements, and any other service that does not require our physical presence.

8) What’s the oddest request you’ve received to date?

(laughs) Nothing too crazy yet. As long as it’s legal and in good taste, we’ll take it on. Although we did turn down one request from a prospective client who asked us to manage his Internet dating life. Some things just shouldn’t be outsourced!

9) Do you have plans to expand your service to other countries?

The US market is years from being tapped, but we do have our eyes set on UK, Canada, and Australia. As English speaking countries, they’re logical expansion targets.

10) What’s the best way for people to get in touch with you?

Just log on to Virtual Appoint and all our contact details are right there.

The Life Of An Outsourcer In India

 

We all know about outsourcing to India, Croatia etc., but what we don’t know is who is on the other side of the phone, instant message or e-mail. Maybe it’s not that important to some, but after beginning my quest to outsource my muse, I got to thinking- who is this guy in India that’s up at 2a.m. working onmy stuff? Where does he hang out? Does he watch Bollywood movies? The following is an interview with Bhupendra Singh Kunwar (yes, I can say it and no, he doesn’t call himself Tom Smith).

Where do you live?
I live in New Delhi, India

Are you married? Kids?
I’m single.

Please describe your background and training?
I hold a Bachelor’s degree in Arts and Humanities, as I had a deep interest in web design and programming. I do not hold any degree/certificate in Computer Education. I learned through my experiences over the last 6 years.

Do you own your own company or work for someone else?
I am somewhere between the above two categories. I have been employed (with other companies) for the past 5.5 years but since April of this year, I’m self-employed and plan to open my own company in a couple of months.

Do you use any other companies other than e-lance for work? If so which ones?
No. Apart from e-lance, I work on my own projects.

What type of projects do you enjoy working on?
I enjoy projects related to S.E.O., Web Development (PHP based) and Web Designing.

Would you say that you could earn a better living working through companies like e-lance, than you could by working for Indian companies?
Definitely, workplaces like e-lance certainly give more earnings than working for a typical computer company in India. In addition, you have the choice to do the projects you like [with e-lance].

Do you find yourself working odd hours so you can communicate with those in the US?
Yes, due to different time zones, I have to work odd hours especially with buyers in the US. We can communicate by email to avoid odd-hour working, but at times instant messaging/chat is essential for the quick and smoother delivery of projects. Nonetheless, I feel more comfortable working late at night than I do in the day hours.

Do you work out of your home or in an office building setting?
I work from home.

When a client awards you a job, do you do the work yourself or do you delegate it to other people?
In 90% of the cases I do the job myself. If I feel overloaded, I’ll get some help from others.

Which country provides you with most of your work?
The U.S. and U.K.

When working with Americans what do you like most and what do you like least (be honest)?
Like the most: Clarity in communication and quick payments
Like the least: Not very concerned about quality (perhaps they aren’t aware that things could be done better) and it seems that they are technically less skilled (which sometimes results in me having to explain every bit to the buyer through long emails, charts, diagrams etc.).

What language is spoken in your home?
Hindi.

What languages do you speak?
English & Hindi.

I understand that English is widely spoken in India- what would you say are the biggest obstacles (if any) when communicating in English to Americans?
When it comes to written communication I don’t feel that there are any obstacles, but when it comes to voice communication (like talking with an American over the phone) the different accent of the Americans does influence and cause an obstacle at the early stages.

I notice that Indians adopt American names- what’s your feeling on that practice?
Yes, it’s true that Indians adopt American names. The good part of this practice lies in the fact that Indian names are difficult to pronounce or spell for the American or British people. In fact, the names of several places within India were changed during the British rule for that very reason. I have also observed that many Indians who migrate to the United States adopt similar American sounding names. In principle, I do not favor this practice and never have “changed my name”.

Would you sketch out a typical day (just the every day stuff)?
My day generally begins at 10 am
11 am:           Breakfast at the dining table

11.30 am:      My work hours start

2.30 pm:        Lunch at the dining table

3.30 pm:        Back at my work table

6.00-9pm       Break from work- with family/out for a walk/television

9.30 pm         Dinner at the dining table

10.30pm – 2.30 am      Second work shift

On the last Saturday night out, where did you go? What did you do?
On Saturday [or weekends] I’m generally with friends, out for a movie or maybe at a bar/restaurant. Though, I don’t drink, I do enjoy the company of friends and the chit-chat. If there is any long weekend or holiday, I may trek out on a Himalayan tour.

Trekking on a Himalayan tour?
I love trekking through the Himalayas. Photography being my other passion, it gives me double pleasure to conquer the treks and capture the unspoiled beauty of nature through my camera. Some of the treks I would like to visit again include the world famous Valley of Flowers and Auli (Skiing destination). Other favorite Himalayan encounters include boating in the grand Nainital Lake and rafting over the Holy Ganges. You may find the photos that I collected during my journey at here (Except for the album titled “Member’s Contribution”, I own all other albums to my credit on this website).

Do you get together with friends and watch sports? If so, where do you watch the games? At home? At a bar? Which sports do you like?
I do get together with friends on weekends [I normally avoid watching sports] but when I do- I prefer watching Cricket at a bar.

Do you enjoy watching Bollywood movies and if so what’s your favorite movie and who is your favorite male and female actors?

Yes, I do watch Bollywood movies.

My favorite movie is: “Rang De Basanti”.
Favorite Actor: Aamir Khan
Favorite Actoress: Tabbu

Last year there was a big political controversy when the American actor Richard Gere had a public kiss with an Indian Actress? What was the talk like in India and what are your personal thoughts on it. It’s a silly question I know, but there is just such a broad difference between American and Indian social cultures that I thought it would be interesting to hear thoughts from a local.

This controversy was bricked politically while it hasn’t gathered any special attention from the general public. The issue was highly raised and objected by some of the political/social groups to gather unnecessary attention.

Personally, I see it no more than propaganda to make a mountain out of a molehill. Though, I am also a conservative Indian, but I don’t see it as objectionable to make a controversy out of it. There were times when people used to object to girls wearing jeans and mini skirts in India!

What’s your favorite American import i.e. Hollywood movies, Coca Cola, etc.
My favorite American import is my Intel powered PC.

Are there any other projects you’re working on now (outside of what you do with e-lance) that you would like to share?
I am planning to launch a B2B travel portal in India which will offer services to travel houses, tour operators and the hospitality sector to e-nable them, making the use of Internet to reach directly to their customers/prospects. Currently, the tourism and hospitality sectors in India hugely rely on travel agents (most of whom operate offline).

Besides this, I am the founder of a regional community website euttaranchal which offers information about Uttarakhand (a Himalayan state in India) and connects the people of the state worldwide through this platform. The website has been running since 2003 and offers completely free matrimonial services as well.

Lastly, would you give us a lesson in Hindi and teach us how to properly pronounce your Indian name?
Sure. Bhupendra could be pronounced as:

Bhu as Bhoe (pronounce it similar to Shoe)
pen as “pain”
dra as dra in “hydra”

My Family calls me Bibu (Bi as Bee & bu as boo)
My Friends call me Bhupi (Bhu as Bhu in Bhupendra & pi as pea)

What’s the best way for someone to get in contact with you?
The best way is through my personal website www.bhupendrakunwar.com

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I thought you might find this interesting as well. It seems that even Snoop wants “in” on India. Check out his new bollywood video-Snoop goes bollywood…

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On another note. We have been receiving a lot of requests for blog interviews. We will be doing only five (as it’s not easily scalable) if you’re interested please send us an email to heyjetset@gmail.com or you can leave a message here.